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#16: RIVER RODING Author: MadMat Post Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:29 PM
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Cheers Andy, never been to Stanford rivers, might have a wander there!

Mat
#17: Re: RIVER RODING Author: andyac , Location: essex Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 06:40 PM
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i went over stanford rivers for about an hour til it got dark. fished stick and pin. caught 2 small roach from the bomb hole swim which is right upstream near our boundary with collier rows stretch. i couldn,t get a bite in the s bend or the big pool next to the ditch as you walk down even though these produced before. some rate the 3 willows but that didn,t produce either. it was 3c when i left. off to the thames tomorrow which will be a proper struggle.
#18: Re: RIVER RODING Author: Dravken , Location: South Ockendon Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 09:57 AM
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Sorry to say this river is fairly dead to what it use to be, it seriously needs to be looked at by the EA and find out what has happened to the fish that once was there. I will not waste petrol any more to catch if I am lucky maybe one or two small fish. When I use to fish this river regularly over 25 years ago you could catch fish almost anywhere without a struggle during daylight hours winter time. Roach bags at Passingford bridge , plenty of chub around Fyfield area without moving much, and dace and roach near Ingatestone. I joined bdac 2 years ago when I returned to fishing mainly to fish this river and now this year I most probably will not renew my membership.
#19: Re: RIVER RODING Author: andyac , Location: essex Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:21 AM
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no where near enough rain and dodgy weather patterns. 3 of us went to hampton court on the thames sunday and we had 2 bites between us and at strand on the green, kew there was 10 of us and only 1 caught.i,ll keep plugging away at the roding as there is some good fish in there just not many and this time of year if the weather warms (8c+) and we some rain a big perch is on the cards.
#20: RIVER RODING Author: STEVEC Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 03:38 PM
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Hi Dravken, I know what you mean. I am in two minds whether or not to rejoin the club this year having given up the club for the same reasons as you a couple of years ago, I only ever fished the Roding and did do for nearly 50 years. What happened to the fish is quite simple they were never replaced in any number following the pollutions. The EA seem to have given up totally with this river. They allow it to be abstracted nearly dry in the summer and now intend to turn the Stanford River section into a flood drainage control area. Which I assume will mean removing any obstructions ie. trees and straightening the river.
I see in the angling press that 100,000s of fish have been stocked in to river and lakes why do we never get any of these?
#21: RIVER RODING Author: BarryK , Location: Basildon Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 05:39 PM
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Yeah - making a large flood control lagoon and then removing all the trees and straightening the river really makes sense - I don't think.

They want to hold back the extra water above Shonks, not persuade it to flow down there even faster......... Exclamation

I guess there will have to be some work above the bridge - maybe a sluice or weir - you never know, it might even improve the river below, especially if the lagoon is large enough to keep the levels up during spring and early summer.
#22: RIVER RODING Author: STEVEC Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:01 AM
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Having witnessed the effects of EA drainage projects it always means straightening, dredging, and 60 degree banks, why should this one be any different. Don't forget we are talking about drainage engineers not fishery protection which is always bottom of the list. Why do we need a flood lagoon anyway, when a river tops it banks it as a natural flood plain. If you want to live on it hard luck.
#23: RIVER RODING Author: BarryK , Location: Basildon Post Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 02:18 PM
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Well - the simple answer is that it's not a Drainage project, it's to prevent food water from flowing downstream and spoiling the rich
folks gardens, i.e. all those in the downstream of Shonks Mill.

The intention is to hold back surplus water, and then allow it to flow through at a reasonable rate after the threat of flooding has abated.

As for natural flood plains - you're right, they should have never been built on - But we've been doing just that for the last 1000 years, a few grumpy old anglers are not gonna change that........the Insurance companies may manage it though, looks as if they are going to make the premiums of flood prone properties so expensive that no-one'll be able to afford to insure 'em.
#24: RIVER RODING Author: STEVEC Post Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 03:31 PM
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Still sounds like a drainage project to me, just letting the water drain away slower.
#25: RIVER RODING Author: andyac , Location: essex Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:12 PM
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wandle got thousands of fish. the 10 mile pollution in 2003 that became diluted at passingford bridge after partially wiping out stanford rivers and mitchells farm was restocked a couple of years ago at collier row club stretch with 625 roach. dace and chubb and when we lost barbel to 5lb, pike and carp 20lb, 7lb chubb, 2lb roach, 1lb dace and tench. 625 just does not improve a river. if the roding drained into a freshwater part of the thames i think things would be much different . i have worked with the EA this year and there hands are tied however they are slightly blinkered and think 10lb bream swimming with big bass at barking means the river is fine all along. the one good thing is that whats left can get to a good size and 3 of my personal bests are from the roding and 2 from barleylands. i dont blame the EA however when i ring them i do get the feeling there thinking its not him again is it! who else says you have contacted us before straight away.
#26: RIVER RODING Author: STEVEC Post Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:45 PM
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60 fish per mile, if we discount those that died, got eaten or washed away in the floods we were probably left with 30 restocked fish per mile. No wonder theres not much left to catch. If I remember right these restocked fish were very small 2-3 inches at the most.
#27: RIVER RODING Author: andyac , Location: essex Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:37 AM
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i dont think any coarse fish stocked in any river is above fingerling size
#28: RIVER RODING Author: GingerKev , Location: Shoeburyness Essex Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:57 AM
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Just rejoined the club ( was a member up to about seven seasons ago ) and was looking forward to fishing the Roding.

I must say after reading this thread it does not really fill me with confidence.

Is it all doom and gloom on the Roding at the moment ?
#29: RIVER RODING Author: STEVEC Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 01:45 PM
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Despite what you read there are still fish in this river worth fishing for. You may strike it lucky some of the bigger fish are still there just now few and far between. Just don't go expecting bags fish you will be disappointed if you do, one or two fish a day is a good day. Good Luck
#30: RIVER RODING Author: GingerKev , Location: Shoeburyness Essex Post Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 03:46 PM
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Thanks for the reply Steve, certainly going to give it a go, it was frozen last weekend when i was down there.
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